Gospel-Centered Pro-Life Podcast
Gospel-Centered Pro-Life Podcast

Episode 125 · 6 months ago

How and When to Introduce The Message of Sexual Purity

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The vast majority of abortions take place because of sexual immorality. Though our primary focus is helping moms see the value of their babies there is an appropriate time and way to introduce Biblical truths about sexual purity. In this episode, we share some Biblical insights and principles on introducing the message of sexual purity to the men and women we encounter at the abortion centers.

I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. And Me Lord, I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome to the Gospel Center Pro Life Podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge you in pro life ministry and always were the focus on the Gospel. Stay tuned. I felt show passish, touch your heart. Use Welcome back to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. Appreciate you, guys, joining us and we're going to try to get right into our subject today, and our subject, as all of our subjects are, is a gospel centered subject or focusing on what the word of God says about this particular subject. And of course, it's in the light of the ministry that we're involved in, on the sidewalks at abortion centers, on these subjects that we cover in this podcast are often time subjects that either someone reached out and ask hey, how would you handle this, or things that we personally have encountered and we thought if we talked through it, it be a blessing to you, guys. And the subject today is going to be the subject of sexual purity and, in particular, how to introduce and and talk about the subject of sexual purity with women, primarily at the abortion center, but also men, and we'll probably give you some scenarios in which we've encountered this and shared this and we'll talk through again with the Bible says. So, Vicky, maybe just kind of share what encourage you to write this article and then we'll jump right into some of the scriptures and some of the things that we have to cover for this topic. Yeah, well, right away, we believe that there would be no abortions if there is no sexual impurity, that it is sexual sin that leads to abortions. But very specifically, this comes up all the time. It is an issue all the time, and one of our counselor's nationally reached out to me...

...and said, you know, I'm just I need some help in a a statement that'll stop someone in their tracks and plant a seat for sexual purity. Yeah, so I thought this would be a good subject for us to then help people. How do you broach the subject if you have a long time and if you only have a few seconds? Yeah, because it cannot be ignored. It absolutely has to be addressed, I believe, for anyone that is ministring outside of an abortion center. Yeah, yeah, and so what you said, I want to reiterate, and we said this before we even started recording this this podcast, is that the vast majority of abortions take place because of sexual immorality, right, sex outside of marriage. Primarily, sometimes it's adulterous situation where you know someone's married to a man and they go and have an adulterous affair with another man. If sexual immorality was not a thing, then abortion would likely not be a thing. You can go of course think, well, yeah, some women that are married and get pregnant by their husband have abortions. That does happen. But if you look at the vast majority, and it's in the hot it's in the ninety percent range of abortions that take place, they take place because someone had sex outside of marriage and got caught up in a situation they didn't account for. And so though our primary goal and talking to a mom out an abortion center is going to be talking to her about her baby and trying to convince her not to kill her baby through abortion, it is appropriate because these women are called up, just like we were right. We were caught up in a cycle of sin that leads to death. These women are caught up in that cycle of sin and death and we want to break that cycle. So we've got to address the things that get her caught up in that cycle. Like she got pregnant somehow, right, yeah, she got pregnant quite likely because of sex outside of marriage. Yeah, that's ultimately what brought her to the abortion center.

And so if we can address that, and it's not just the women going into the abortion center it's also women that we've ministered to who maybe have, you know, a post abortion story. We've encountered them coming out after they had the abortion and to the sexual purity message can be appropriate there for men. I mean I've literally just to kind of maybe jump the gun a little bed and go ahead a little bit in this article. I've talked to men in front of the abortion center weeping their eyes out because they didn't want to their girlfriend to go and have the abortion. They didn't want to actually, matter of fact, this happened while I was out in California. Young Man came walking up to me ask me and the people that are out there please pray for my girlfriend. I don't want her to do this. I never, never wanted to be a part of an abortion like this and that of course, his situation was they're not married there had they had sex outside of marriage, got caught up in a situation that didn't account for and so I've talked to men in that situation. You have to be sensitive, of course. You don't want to add insul to injury when you're out there weeping on the sidewalk and their girlfriends in there to have an abortion. I don't want to just hammer him with hey, well, you shouldn't have had sex outside of marriage, you wicked. Center. Right, I want to be gracious, but also want to be fourth right, Hey, and I've said this oftentimes, do you see where sin leads? Yeah, the Bible warns against sex outside of marriage. Do you see that? It's not just because God wants to withhold something from you? Yeah, but it is actually God cares about you and doesn't want you to be caught up in situations like this. That's right, it's his protection. Yeah, and then the third opportunity, I guess, to be able to talk about sexual purity is for if you're at a place like a Plant parenthood that offers birth control pills. Yeah, these women there, they may not very well not be there for an abortion. We hear that all the time. I'm not here for that. I'm not here for an abortion, but they are there for birth control pills, and maybe this is your opportunity to prevent a future abortion right by by addressing...

...the holy sue of sexual impurity, because our sexual immorality, because most of the times, again, the women going in for the birth control pills are quite often young, unmarried women. Yeah, and men. So so I think the first thing that we need to have clear in our heart as well. It will. Is it bad? It's a bad sex outside of marriage? Certainly, the culture says it's not bad. He says it's not bad, movies say it's not bad, the songs say it's not bad. Yeah, but what is the Bible say, which is is our of course, where we go to first for our morals and our what is what we should be telling others? Yes, absolutely, yeah, yeah, I mean certainly it should be a personal conviction to us, but not a personal conviction just based on our feelings, but based on the word of God. So, yeah, what does the Word of God say? We can go right, we can go all the way back to the first, you know, two books of the Bible. We can see what sexual Sindy, even in Genesis, but in particular I'm thinking of Exodus and Chapter Twenty, the Ten Commandments, the Seventh Command you shall not commit adultery, right, which includes all sexual immorality. So there's the clear foundation there that God is against all sexual immorality. Any sex outside of marriage is sexual immorality and you know so that's a clear biblical standard right there. Yeah, but then you've got a few scriptures that you put out here which are all great from from the New Testament. And again this is not just a new testament principle. Sex outside of marriage is a principle since the very beginning because God, God, is the one that created sex. But of course the devil in human beings, in their willingness to believe the lives of the devil, have really perverted this thing, yeah, that God has created to be something beautiful inside of marriage. The devil in human beings have perverted it. Right, but the New Testament does address sexual sex outside of marriage several times. I'm going to read just a few passages here. The first one I'm going to read is in First Corinthians, chapter six and verse Eighteen, where it says flee from sexual immorality.

Every other sin a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sends against his own body. The principle in this particular passage of scripture, I mean you can get into death, we could read the whole context of it, but really the principle kind of remains true through the whole Bible. Really and why God is against sexual immorality, not just because, you know, he's grossed out by it or whatever, but it really has to do with God's concerning care for human beings. God cares for us a lot of times. I'll say I'll say it on the microphone, I'll say it in one on one conversations, is that when God sets up his standard, and in particular the standard of you shall not commit a Adultri or have sex outside of marriage, that's standard. We could view that standard one of two ways. We could view it as kind of a gate to keep us out of out of enjoying like a beautiful pasture, that God wants to keep us away from this beautiful place where we could go and have fun and enjoy life. We can view it like that, yeah, or kind of like a boundary that God says you can't go because, after all, if you went past that boundary you would enjoy life, and so God wants to hold something back from you. We can view it like that or we can view it, I think, more accurately or in contrast to that, which is not accurate at all. God's not trying to just keep something from us. You can view it, I think, biblically, which is like a guard rail on a mountain road. Right, you're driving the mountain road. Many of you guys know exactly what I'm talking about. You see those guard rails. If you were to look over the edge, you would see there's a there's a quite a fall that you would have if you went past that guard rail. That guard rail is not there to keep you from enjoying your flight. I want to fly, and so that guard reels hold me back from flying. That guard rail is to keep you from a heap of destruction at the bottom of that mountain. And that's what God's Word is. That's what the Law of God is. It's to keep you from destruction, right,...

...and that's what this is talking about in this first Corinthians chapter six passage, and I think it's also interesting in that passage that it compares sexual sin with other sins. Yeah, and and that there is something specially dangerous, yeah, about sexual sin. It's what this would indicate. Yeah, absolutely. And again, if you look throughout the Old Testament, you look at I mean I think of a man like David King, David, who was a prophet, a priest, a man after God's own heart. And yet what was his demise? It was sexual sin. Right, and again, God wants us to be warned of the consequences of sexual sin because of the destruction that comes from it. Things like abortion, like sexually transmitted diseases, like the destruction of relationships, those things are the result of sexual sin. And he says here this sin is against your own body. Yeah, against your own body. So it does destruction to you and to your own body in so many ways. The next passage, and again you've got a couple of passages here which I think guys get ahold of this article and read all these passages be familiar with these, but that he brews chapter thirteen, verse for passage, and says let marriage be held an honor among all man. That's a rebuke to our our modern day that marriage is not held an honor right. Let Marriage be held an honor among all. Let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous. And here's where it comes to like like. Yes, God is a just judge, God does have a standard and that standard is for our good. But God, as a creator, has a right to say what is good and what is right, for our good, but also because he says so in the Bible tells us very clearly. Go you go on into revelation, Chapter Twenty one, Verse Eight, where it talks about that these people that will in not inherit the Kingdom of God but will be put into the lake of fire,...

...or sexual immoral people. Of course it talks about idolatres and it talks about cowards and it talks about liars, but the sexual immoral are there too, and in First Corinthians, I believe, in that same passage in First Corinthians, chapter six, I think it's first nine, where it says that the sexually immoral will not inherit the Kingdom of God, and in the passage in as a Glacian, chapter six, where Paul Talks about those who will not inherit the Kingdom of God and he talks about shares, about the fruits of the spirit. After this passage, right before this passage, he talks about the spirit wars against the flesh and the deeds of the flesh are evident. And he talks about sexual immorality. It's woven through the whole New Testament that sexual immorality is something that God is not okay with and does not approve of, that we should oppose. And if we care about people that are in sexual immorality, because we don't want them to be judged by God, we need to warn them about this right and I mean you can do it. You can, you can hold up a sign that says Turner Burn. I guess God could use that. But I think in these situations it's more appropriate for us to address these situations forth rightly but with grace and have a conversation, especially with the woman who in a broken situation. To just tell her turn or burn is probably not going to be the best way to approach it right. But I do think we need to issue warnings as it pertains this sexual and morality, not just it's a bad idea for you. It might just affect your body it leads to things like abortion. We can certainly mention those things, but I think we also need to warn them of the fact that they're going to stand before God and give an account. Yeah, give them the biblical warning and for also, quite often, if they're in front of an abortion center, they are they're not happy, not at peace. No, they know that their choices have led them to a place they don't want to be. So they are open maybe to that message. And I will often say, well, where did your desire to have sex out side of marriage lead you? Was it to a place that you wanted to be? Was this relationship where you wanted it to be? In quite often the...

...the man, is the one urging the abortion and they're able to see. Well, honestly, sex outside of marriage really did harm them. They are able to see maybe better than when things are going great and they're not standing in front of an abortion center. Yeah, but one of the main struggles, I think, is what we alluded to earlier. Cultural norms and oppose us. I mean it is everywhere. The the joy of sex out side of marriage with none of the consequence, right, none of the fall out. Yeah, none of the destruction. And because of that you often have an upward battle in trying to present to them that this is this is not good. Yeah, I mean, strangely, even in the Christian Christian culture of America, it's like sex outside of marriage is the norm. It's almost like you're speaking a foreign language when you you say things like fornication is sin, and even the word fornication. I actually use the word fornication. Yeah, it's a maybe, I don't know, an old school word or whatever, whatever you want to call it's a biblical word, right, and it has certain connotations to it and if I use the word fornication I'll always explain what that means. Fornication is any sex outside of marriage, Ye, outside of the covenant of marriage. But yeah, fornication is even like a foreign term to even to a lot of modern Christians. Yeah, this idea that secks outside of marriage somehow is not God's will for us. I mean it's again, it's a common biblical reality and for our society and even, unfortunately, for some of the church, it's a foreign concept to say that sex outside of marriage is sin, that it's wrong. Yeah, so I have often found, as I am sharing the truth about sexual purity and that sex outside of marriage is a sin. Usually the women are surprised. I mean,...

...on one level they're not when I when I say do you think God approved of sex outside of marriage, they will sometimes say no, he really doesn't, but sometimes they are surprised, which always surprises me. Yeah, but but so how do we, how do we broach that subject? That is probably one of the most common questions I get regarding this from fellow counselors. How how do you bring it up in in the first place, and maybe you could share how you do, how I do quite often is I'm sharing the Gospel. Yeah, and I'm sharing ray comforts, kind of framework for the Gospel. And when I ask them, are you going to heaven and Hell? And then I go through a list of sins to show them, hey, you're really not the good person you thought you were. And one of those is always have you ever lusted after someone that you're not married to? And they almost always, of course, say yes. And then I'll say, well, the Bible calls that adult tree and it's very serious. And why? Why do you think it's serious? and well, that's how I get into the subject. And then I'll point out verses that some of them that we've already listed. YEA, and from there we can we'll get into the this is now, again, if you have an extended amount of time, right when when you have to speak with them. But often that's how I begin that that discussion. Yeah, yeah, of times I'll begin the discussion and I do talk to women at the abortion center and I will mention this subject. I'm probably not going to get as in depth with a woman as you would right, but with the men I'll kind of approach the subject just like I explained earlier. If he's there on the sidewalk, and a lot of times these guys are weeping, they're broken. Sometimes it's crocodile tears and they're just really feeling guilty and they probably are the one that...

...brought her there by. But I haven't had men like balling their eyes out hoping that she would come out of there and not have the abortion. And so I will introduce the subject of sexual purity by saying something to the effect of you, do you see where sexual sin leads? I might ask the question like you do. What do you think God thinks about sex outside of marriage? And most people, if they mean listen, we all have a conscience, we all know right from wrong. We all know that sexual sin is wrong. We know that it's wrong. Society has taught us otherwise and we believe the lives of society for the most part, but we all know it's wrong. So most men will reply, well, I know it's wrong, but something like everybody's doing it. It's just what you do, right. And so I'll continue in the conversation and talking about well, if you wouldn't have had sex outside of marriage, would you be here in the situation that you're in? Do you see that God's word, even though maybe you don't agree with the Bible, do you see that God's word and what God set forth is the best? Yeah, and I might even get, I've gotten into some even like statistical conversations about God's ways being the best ways. Even sociologist and psychologist and all these people would agree that the best context for a child to be raised in is two parents that are married, two parents the MOM and the dad. Even have to be specific in this day and age about that. Yeah, the two parents are a mom and the dad, for them to be married and to stay married is the best context for a child to be raised in God's ways are the best ways, and so I'll have the conversation along those lines. Yeah, those are good. Another way that I will enter into that discussion is if they have a daughter. And oftentimes you'll find that out hate or what if you have a daughter. But if you do have a daughter, would you want your daughter to have sex outside of marriage or do you want her to wait till marriage? They almost uniformly say that that they would prefer that they wait. Yeah. So...

...so those are just some some if you have probably a bit of time, more than more than just a few seconds. Right. But and we already talked about how sex outside of marriage really does harm us. YEA, and it and it's protective God's commandment that we should be sexually pure. But one of the things that I encounter a lot, and I think we've discussed this on other podcast, is people will claim, Oh, I'm a Christian, I'm a believer, Jesus is Lord of my life. Yeah, and then well, is he really? If have you submitted every area of your life if you have not submitted in this area? Right, and I think that is a really important question to ask them. Yeah, yeah, because again, there is this kind of fight. There's this kind of back and forth in their minds. When you talk about whether or not six outside of marriage is right or whether it's wrong. In one breath they'll say, well, I know it's wrong, and then another breath I'll say it's right and again. At the end of the day, God's standard is what matters and the standard of society has no bearing on what. When we stand before God, what we're going to give an account for? Right, that's right, that's right. So if Jesus is Lord, we're going to obey him in all areas of our life, and sexual purity is one of those areas. But what I do encounter, again, I would say most of the time, is their own parents. Yeah, have been sexually impure outside married, they are are unmarried, or there's no dad in the picture at all. Their role models are terrible. That doesn't excuse it, but it helps you to understand they have never had anyone model. Yeah, what the Bible is saying is the ideal. Yeah, and so you are working against a culture, and you really are. You need to shift their world view and we obviously can't do that on our own power. That's a major task. Yeah, certainly in the few minutes that we might have. But God can do it...

...and his word can do it and the conviction of his word, and so that's why it's so important going back to kind of where we started. Know what the Bible says. Yeah, have those verses ready. I just want to say that one of the count that the same concert that asked me this question. Then, after I discussed with her what I do, she said, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to make a postcard with with some of these main points that were raising right now, with some of these verses, and I'm going to hand it out to women, because I often don't have the time, but then you've got a hand out that can speak for you when you know, when you're not there, and I thought that was a great idea and she actually made a great hand out. Yeah, for these women. Yeah, yeah, I think having something because again, like we've talked about, often times what you're doing is planting seeds and water and seeds. Yeah, quite likely, especially here in the south, when you're talking about sexual morality, you're just reiterating things that they have already heard in church, they already know right, and reinforcing again with their conscience already says is right and wrong. You're handing them a piece of literature again. There's that's more seeds planted or watering other seeds. Yeah, what a share just a kind of briefly, a situation, a story where I was talking to a young man. This is we had a young lady that came here to the abortion center. She came on board the mobiltra sound, you know, ended up choosing life's awesome story. I mean she was visibly pregg that. It was a couple years back, and she ended up calling me up on the phone. She had some situation going on with the boyfriend, with the father of the baby, and she was like, I want you to come and just basically set him straight. And of course she needed to be set straight to you because they were having sex outside of marriage. So one of the female counselors ministered to her. Anyway, Long Story Short, we end up in a restaurant when got the guy, took him out to eat, just talking to him and kind of got him to share his story and share what's the contention between him and his girlfriend and all this stuff,...

...like Hey, your dad now, Dude, you need to step it up, he starts sharing like all these like basically, well, she had sex with my my friend, and then I so I had sex with her friends, like all this, like yeah, my Oh gosh. I said, wait, wait a minute, yeah, one second. You know, you're human being, like you're not an animal. You don't have to be given to the whims every time you feel like you need to go and have sex with someone, like you just have to surrender that God has made you for so much more. So I started speaking like encouragement. Also rebuked the guy to like, man, you're a human being, you're not an animal that's just given to all your passions and lust and stuff. It really speaks to what the word of God says, and the word of God says talking about the fruits of the spirit. One of those fruits of the spirit is self control. Human beings can have self control, but of course, like you said, you've got to be born of the spirit. And so of course I share the go gospel with this young man. He didn't strender his life to Jesus at that point, but he leaves had an encounter with the truth and I think his men. We need to encourage the young men that we encounter at the abortion center, to step it up, to do before God what they should do, rather than taking advantage of women and dropping him off at an abortion center. To be a man, yeah, to not take advantage of women, but protect right, protect women, of course in children and of course, like you have in this article and we just talked about, show them the result of their sin. Don't you see? Because here's he's talking about this, you know he can't trust her, she can't trust him because of all this sexual immorality going around in their community. Like Gosh, what a mess. And so able to just clearly lay out to him, don't you see what a mess your life is? Don't you see what a mess you, following your own passions, the whims of your flesh, is creating? or You can't even trust your own best friend? You can't even trust your girlfriend, she can't trust it's just a mess. Yeah, and I think he was able to see the destruction that comes from disobeying...

God's Word and that kind of goes into what we labeled on the article that we wrote about thought provoking questions, asking questions and finding out, you know, what what the background is, but then asking those questions that help them to reassess what caused this mess in a general way. What caused this mess in your life? They he was able to conclude, I assume that his mess was caused. He at least had a had a confrontation with that truth, that's for sure. Yeah, whether or not the Lord changed his life and he surrendered to God's will in that situation, I hadn't heard back from him. Yeah, well, and sometimes when seeds I was water, and that, I think, is key. We are planning seat and then remember, don't be discouraged. You are working against really an entire world view culture that is so pervasive. It would almost be a miracle if someone said you are right and I'm never going to have sex aget outside of merit. Yeah, that would probably not be the norm. And so don't be discouraged. I do see this area oftentimes, I will still see women submit or people submit their lives to the Lord, and this area remains a difficult area. Yeah, but I have seen people grow in in the as they walk with the Lord and as they come really are convicted more and more by the Lord to grow in this area. So this I think it's a really hard area for people to just instantaneously change and to know it might be a process. It doesn't mean all hope is lost. It doesn't mean that they aren't really have an encountered God, but that it might be a process of them growing and understanding the truth of what you're trying to convey. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, and I think, listen, let's just be real. You can't give of what you don't have. Yeah, and so we ourselves. Now I will say, as you just shared, it would be a miracle if God took someone out of that. God did that for me. Yeah, I was a fornicator before I came to know the Lord and certainly after I...

...came to know the Lord. There were some temptations there and there was some sexual sin that I fell into. Yeah, not fullblown, you know, sex outside of marriage, but other sexually immoral things and temptations. I put myself situations I'll put myself into and by God's grace, he took me out of that stuff. He grew me in to the process of sanctification. Right, sanctifying me, making me more like Jesus. But I kind of bring that around to listen, we can't give what we don't have if we're not walking in holiness before the Lord. If we're not keeping our eyes, ourselves, as ministers of the Gospel, pure from sexual immorality, if we're not, if we're not keeping our hands pure from sexual immorality, then we need to check our own hearts and may even need to step back. I would say definitely, if you're involved in sexual immorality, you need to step back from trying to minister to other people whose problem with sexual immorality and get that thing right before God. Yeah, confess that sin to someone, a another man that would hold you accountable, or another woman, if you're a woman, that would hold you accountable and listen. Could because if you're a believer in Jesus, this is what this first Corinthians Pass is written to believers to warn them about the results of sexual immorality. If you fall victim, or they've all victim, fall prey. I guess that's the same. Yeah, terminology. Give into that temptive, into it and fall into sexual sin. It doesn't necessarily mean you you lose your salvation and you're longer a Christian, but certainly you set yourself up to being snared by the devil. And I've seeing people start out really well, serving God, walking with the Lord, and give themselves to sexual immorality and months later they don't want to have anything to do with God. Yeah, exactly. Are All sin dark and snowballing, doesn't it from him from one to into the next. So I say that just we need to check our own hearts and then, of course, as we've been cleansed before God, we want to see others cleansed as well.

And I will share my testimony. I've shared my testimony of being a fornicator and God save me out of that. And if God did it for me, he can do it for anybody. Yeah, because, man, I was really steeped in it and he rescued me from it. And to our testimonies are powerful and how God has rescued us from sexual immorality. Yeah, which is another great tip, and at the end of this article we do list a few practical tips. I'll just go for them really fast. Have handouts with sexual purity scripture. Yeah, talk about the negative effects of promiscuity, stds, whatever, give some of those statistics, offer community alternatives, to plan parenthood and have handouts on the path to salvation, because ultimately that is, like you said that that is what is. That's what the cure is. Yeah, and remember that we're planting seats with all of those yeah, all those things. Yeah, absolutely, yeah. Well, guys, we hope this episode was a blessing to you. We would encourage you, guys, to share this episode with others. Maybe you think it would be an encouragement to someone else that's in sidewalk ministry, or maybe someone that's not currently involved in sidewalk ministry. Send it out, share it with friends, reach out to us. Let us know what you think about this podcast episode. In the other episodes, let us know maybe if there are other subjects you'd like for us to cover, we'd love to try to cover those subjects. You could reach me, Daniel, Love Life Dot Org. You can reach her Vicky I love life dot Org. We'd love to hear from you, but until next time, God, bless God, bless y'all. Give our love for love, give me our love for gratitude. I know it will cost me my life. Nothing's too precious in some you.

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