Gospel-Centered Pro-Life Podcast
Gospel-Centered Pro-Life Podcast

Episode 109 · 10 months ago

Sharing the Gospel - Mock Session

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

This episode is part 2 of last week’s episode. In this episode, Vicky shares the Gospel with “Cathy” who is walking into the abortion center and claims to be an agnostic. We pray that this mock session will equip and encourage you. 

https://sidewalks4life.com/sharing-gospel-with-agnostic-mom/ 

I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours, s and me, Lord, I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome to the Gospel Center Pro Life Podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge you in pro life ministry and always were the focus on the Gospel. Stay tuned. I felt show passish touch your heart. Welcome back to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. Appreciate you guys joining us. Appreciate if you guys would share this podcast with other people and, like we always do, at the end of this episode we're going to give our email addresses so you could reach out to us with suggestions for future podcasts maybe some comments about this particular episode. This episode is kind of springboarding off of our previous episode where we did a mock session with Vicki and Maddie and they pretended Maddie was an agnostic coming to the abortion center and was afraid that her baby was going to be going to have issues because she had been drinking and had been smoking and that sort of thing, which is not uncommon actually. So this episode actually springboard and off of that. was kind of at the end of that last episode she said, will you come over with me in the shade here and we'll talk further. This was them talking further, her sharing the gospel with Maddie, who's actually her name is not Sarah in this one, right, it's Cathathy, Cathy, okay. So, anyway, we're going to give you guys an opportunity to listen to this mock counseling session and then, as we have in time past, we're going to come and talk a little bit about it, some of the things that went well, some of the things that could have been done better. And Vicki said that there was one blaring omission on her part. MM. So we're going to talk about what that might be. Maybe you guys, as you're listening through, try to figure out what is that blaring omission on her part and how could she never leave that out again? Right, so I'll be shamed into it. No more. Yes, anything you want to add before we jump into the video? Obviously it's a video, but right, you guys are listening on a podcast. Yeah, so you're not seeing the video, but it's okay. The audio. Yeah, it's great. We will be able to post the videos, I think, on sidewalks for life. With the article that goes along with this. But the the one thing that I wanted to add is remember this is an agnostic mom this is different from how I would share the gospel if it was someone who has already said I believe in Jesus, I believe in God. I was really so it. There were two things that I was going for here with with her being someone who really didn't believe in Jesus at all, and that was, first of all, to introduce her to Jesus and then to introduce the truth, the Gospel. Yeah, okay, all right, I guess we'll listen in and we'll be back after after this mock...

...session. Okay, so you've got the information and thank you so much that you're willing to talk with me. Yeah, about God, I mean I'm hoping it'll be life changing, and it was for me. Like I was telling you, I'm post abortive and it was when I really came to grips with what I had done and when I had my first son. Is is when I saw God and I and I really I found him, and the Bible says that the door will be open to all who knock. God. God extends the invitation to be found to everyone of us, all who see can will find him. The Bible says. That's what I'm hoping is that at least he'll you know, you'll get a sense of of that he is. He is there and he is seeking you and waiting for you just to turn to him. But but you know what, I never got your name and I'm so sorry. I'm what is your name? I'm cathy here, Cathy, okay, Cathy, and you and I'm Viking and my name and numbers is on the back right. Okay, so you can talk with me at any time and I know we talked about that. We're going to help you, and I want you to know all the help we offer is completely in no way contingent on how you feel about God, not at all. You reject God completely, we're still going to help you because we feel called by God to do our best to help you and whatever situation you face. Okay, so why don't we start with just I hope this doesn't happen, but if you were to, you know, get in your car and drive away and getting an accent and die, where do you think you'd be going? Heaven or Hell? I don't know. What if you just like cease to exist. Okay, so you might, you might cease to exist. Let's say that there is a heaven and there is a hell, place to reward, enjoy an eternal the the spirit is eternal, and there's a place where God is. I mean the bottle certainly talks about heaven and a hell. Heaven where you're with God for all eternity. Hell, we are, you are separated from God in eternal torment for all eternity. So where do you think if it thinking about your life, where do you think you would be going? I don't know. I mean I've done some pretty bad stuff but like, for the most part I've been pretty good and I'm not I don't like het people in general or saying okay, so you're pretty good person. Like if there was a scale and you wage your good and bad on the scale, good tips a little bit higher than bad, a little bit. Yeah, okay. Let me ask you some questions. Have you ever told a lie? Yeah, okay. What does that make you're okay. Have you ever stolen something? Oh Yeah, yeah, does that make you a thief? Okay. Have you ever taken the Lord's name in vain? You know what I mean by that, like if you my gosh, or yeah, yeah, but you yeah, or Jesus Christ, and use it as a cuss word, really an exclamation of surprise or anger, cussing and...

...anger and hurling it at someone. Have you ever done that? But the okay, IE, I have two and the Bible takes that very seriously. It's called blasphemy. So you and I are blasphemers according to the Bible. How about, have you ever looked with lust upon someone you're not married to? Let me ask you how you married. Okay, and you're pregnant, so we know the answer their question. Okay. And and the Bible says that if you even look with lust upon someone that you're not married to, you've committed adultery in your heart. So, according to the standard of the Bible, which everything begins in the heart, all sin begins in the heart. And according to the biblical standard, if you've looked, even looked with lust upon a man you're not married to, you've committed adultery, makes you an adulterer right according to this right now. How about, have you ever murdered? No, no, okay. How about if you took that human beings life, would that be murder? I guess it depends on what you consider murder. Okay, I'm well, murders the taking of an innocent human life. Is that human being innocent? Yes, yeah, I mean I guess it is. And it's a human being right with other human DNA from the moment of conception. So so, by that standard, you would murder if you went in there and killed your baby. Without a doubt that that's taking of an innocent human life. But do you know that the Bible says that if you even call your brother Rocco, which means fool, you've murdered him in your heart. Again, that heart thing. But the Bible keeps coming back to our heart and what happens in our heart. That's where all sin begins. We think about it, we dwell on it, then we do it, we take action. That's the progression of sin. So you have just admitted that you are a lying, thieving, blaspheming, adulter, is murderer. That's five of the time. Commanders, do you still look so good? No, no, not really really. So you're not alone. The Bible says that all have sinned and, Paul Short of the glory of God, all of us all of us in and you can see on that list, as I was going through it, you're probably being alone lies or not so bad right. Well, stealing things once in a while for a good reason, maybe as night. But as the list progressed, I think you were beginning to kind of think, wow, that's sin. has kind of added up and and and it's pretty pretty significant in my life. So all have sinned and false show the glory of God, and the Bible also says that there's a penalty for sin. For example, you have a mother and you were a child, and when you were a child, if your mother had not had consequences, punishment for your wrongdoing, would you have grown up to be a responsible, good human being? Do you think? I don't think either one of us are responsible good you. Okay, so...

...maybe she'd. Maybe she didn't do that right, maybe she didn't discipline you, and maybe that's part of why you've led down a path we're kind of yours, maybe looking now with a little bit of regret on some of the things you've done. So so there is a penalty. Even a parent, a good parent of course, disciplines their child. God, if he's the god of the Bible, that I'm claiming he is, then he is the best parent. He is a perfect parent in fact, because if he created everything, then he is mighty above all else, and if he has created these people, he has the right to do with them whatever he desires. And one of the things he has done is he's given us his commandments, his law, and we've broken them. And if, if we've broken the law in in a real court house, let's say you were in you were in court and you had committed murder and they knew you'd committed murder and and they the judge says, how do you how do you plead anything? Guilty, because you know you're guilty, but you say, but I'm really sorry. Most of the time I'm good, and let's you know, on one of my bad days, that I committed murder, but I promise I won't do it again and I think you should let me go free. Would he be a good judge if he let you go free? No, no, because you have a sense of justice. Right there, that's not justice. Well, why do you think you have a sense of justice? Have you ever thought about that? I'll tell you why. Because there the Creator is universe, who we are made in the image of the Bible says, is a god of justice. He's got a love. He loves you so much, just as your mother hopefully loved you so much, or someone in your life, I'm sure, loved and cared about you. But it's not love if we just let you run wild with no restrictions, no boundaries, no laws, and if, when you break those laws, there isn't justice and you're returned to a right relationship with that, with your parent, with ever who it was who who you've broke the law, and justice is served by their being some sort of consequence. Right. Well, the Bible says the penalty for sin is death. That's the consequence hell, eternal separation from God. And that makes sense when you think about like that courtroom scene. Right, there has to be a penalty, especially when you've committed something serious us, like murder. But what if the judge said to you, look, Cathy, I know you're guilty of murder. The state requires the penalty for murder is the electric chair. That penalty must be paid and I'm going to make a deal with you now. No judge on earth is ever going to do this, but let's just pretend he has. The power and willingness to...

...do this. What if he says, I'm going to make a deal with you because, you know what, you're young, I've lived a full, long life and and I just care about you, and instead of you going to the electric chair, I'll go in your place. I will pay the penalty that you deserve. Now, you see, no judge ever going to really do that. But but if he did, you have a choice to make. Right if you say to that judge, wow, that's amazing, I can't believe you would do that for me, but thank you. Sure, then who's going to go to the electric chair? You were the judge, the judge, the judge. Could you've accepted what he's going to do for you? You can't believe it, but he's going to. So the judge goes, and who is set free? Me? You. If, on the other hand, the judge makes that offer and you say had no way, I know you're just trying to trick me. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't do it anyway, and besides that, it's honestly not pair. I can't let you do that. Then who goes to the electric chair? You? Well, in a similar way, it's not perfect, analogy at all. Analogies always fall short. But in a similar way, that's the deal God makes with us. He Sent Jesus, is only begotten Son, the Bible says, fully human but fully man, to Earth with one purpose, that he was to live a perfect sinless life, which he did. In the Bible is a historical book. There is no account of Jesus ever sinning. There were other books written at that time period. None of them accused Jesus Sin Never. He never committed a sin. Did he owe the penalty for death? No, the penalty for sin, which is death. No, he did not owe it. Right, right, you do. I do. In fact everyone does, because we've all sinned and fall short of God's glory, and the penalty for sin is death. So Jesus lived thirty three years on earth. Willingly said, I will pay the penalty. You me, everyone in that abortion center and on this street. Everyone the penalty we all own. He would go to the devastating death, the horrific, just tormentous death of the Cross to pay the penalty for sin that we deserved. Do you know about the cross? That? It's hard to grow up in America not know about the Crustian yeah, and so you know, Jesus went to the cross, did this terrible death and three days later Easter, the what we celebrated Easter. He rose from the dead. Now, first of all, that proves two things. Right, can you rise from the dead? How about how to drive? I don't think so. Now proves he's God, he's something, not US anyway. Right, right, when he rose from the dead, from the dead. What did he overcome that? Yeah, he overcame death. So He's proving that he has the power...

...to overcome the penalty for sin, the you and I own. He overcame death, he overcame sin, he paid the penalty for every bit of it for us. Now, how do we know he rose from the dead? I'm not going to say that there is an element of faith. There is, but there are some very convincing evidence of that. Again, there were books written at the same time period that talk about this, this huge influx of followers of this man who supposedly died on on the cross, and these followers are saying they saw him risen, risen from the dead. Those are extra biblical books. The Bible says that he rose from the dead and we know from history that everyone except for one of the apostles, the twelve men that followed Jesus during his earthly ministry. Every one of them died a martyr's death rather than recamped their belief that they saw he had risen from the dead. Would you die for something that you knew was alive? If you knew he had not risen from the dead, would you say no, go ahead and kill me, he rose from the dead. Never but all of the just top a disciples, but one one of them prison after death. All of the rest of them died a horrific martyr's death rather than we can't the truth that Jesus rose from the dead. So I'm going to read you one of my favorite verses. It's Romans ten nine. If you declare with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. And I want to just talk about that a little. If you declear with your mouth, speak it that Jesus is Lord, what do you think that means? Jesus is Lord. What is Lord? What is the Lord of Your Life? What does that mean? Like if money was Lord, would you do anything to get money? Probably, if it was Lord. Right. So what if Jesus is Lord, what do you think that means? Through anything to get Jesus, do anything to get Jesus do everything he says right. And he says that in the Bible. He says, if you love me, you will obey me. That's how we show our love of Jesus. And he also says in other verses, why do you call me Lord, Lord, and not do what I say? So He's saying if you're not doing what I'm saying, if you're murdering, if you're lying, if you're blasphemy and you're continuing in that, then he's not more. But if he is Lord, if you're going to call him Lord, he will do what he says. That's what this first says. So if you declare with your mouth that he's Lord, believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, like those twelve disciples and all those witnesses that saw him, and now us today that look...

...at the evidence of this incredible creation, of the fact that you're alive, of the fact that the womb has is perfectly designed for the miracle of life, that of the design of even a strand of DNA is just so intricate that there is a creator, and if you believe that that creator tears about you and rose from the dead, then you will be saved. And what that means is you can have eternal life with Jesus, with God, and the beautiful result, the Bible tells us, is that the Holy Spirit enters our heart at that moment when we submit our life to Jesus. He enters our heart and guides us into all righteousness, so that this burden that you have probably fought, this terribly wearying burden of sin that has led you to a place how but you never thought you'd come that burden of sin, it is removed and instead what is replaced is a deep desire to please and follow and Love God, and he will help you. So I want to ask you, I know you've never done that. Is that something you'd be interested in doing? Some Way Out? I want to learn more about I've never heard it explain that way before. Just yeah, I guess it just seems like God just doesn't want us to have a good time. It does. They're now, do you understand? Maybe he's protecting you right because he's this going to be a good time going in there and carrying your baby now and not at all. So I hope it's made you think a couple of things. I'd love to give you some more information and I can send you. I'd love to get your number, yeah, and and text, text you some some sources that were you can explore more on your own and I'd love to keep talking with you about this. But at the very least, can I encourage you to come with me for an ultra sound, let's look at your baby and then kind of go from there? Yeah, we can do that. Okay, God, let you let me. Let me just go see if I can get them on the phone and take you over there. Thank you. Well, we're back. We hope that was a blessing to you guys. Gotten a lot of feedback in the past from people who've said that these MOX sessions were blessing. You kind of get to listen in on some of the things that we might say as we're ministering to a mom at the abortion center. So we're going to comment on some of the things, but I mean, all in all, think it is good and we told you guys, to talk about or think about the blaring omission. That thing that Vicky left out of her conversation with Cathy, but it gets Cathy and sharing the Gospel with her. So maybe we'll say that for yeah. And what was that? Yeah, what was that thing that she forgot? I didn't think it was to me and see it as a as a blaring omission, but certainly some yeah, could have focused on yeah, I do know. Just starting out, I think one of our critiques of the last last...

...portion of this whole session was that you didn't get her name, and so it's important that we get their name. It's not something that I get, I'm sure this in the past, right away. It probably in the course of the conversation. Depends on the conversation. Sometimes I'll get their name right away, but I don't want to be I don't want to come across as a creeper. Right, I'm trying to get all the day. Sure, yeah, they don't want to be given out personal information when we first meet him because they have heard bad things about us, they don't like us. Yeah, they don't want to stop me exactly. Yeah. So, can I get your name and can I go ahead and get your email address? Oh, oh, yet, would you give your so security number in your home agsty. I got a credit card on you. Yeah, of course wouldn't to come across this creepers. We're not trying to get information just for the sake of information, but we want to build a relationship. Having their name is important in this portion. You did apologize. Hey, I think get your name before right. What's your name? She here's your name or names Cathy, and you continue to minister to her from there. I want to make an important point on something that I want to make sure that all of us in sidewalk ministry do. If we are going to be giving resources to the MOM's it is very important if you start a gospel discussion that you tell them right off the bat nothing that we offer will be affected in any way by any decision you make. For Jesus, yeah, and and I did, and I say that at the GECKO. I said that at the beginning of this of the session just just that you just watched. Very important we have. That was one of the points. Yeah, I wrote that down. That's one of the points that I thought was so important. Okay, nothing that I say and no decision that you make based on what I say has anything to do with whether or not you get a free ultrasound? Will or not we give you a baby shower, and none of the help that we offer is connected with what decision you make. Now we have been accused of that by proabortion people and and whatever else. You guys make them jump through all these hoops before you give them any resources. That has never been the truth. That's right and it will never be the truth. However, I will say that some organizations, mean you think about organizations like food pantries and things like that, they have certain hoops, so to speak, the people jump through. So there's things. There's like like we need information from them, like that's a hoop that everybody has a jump through. We didn't know where you live and who you are if we're going to be helping you, because how we're going to help you if we don't know who you are? You know so. But as far as like you have to do this, you have to take this class or do that thing, we don't do that. It's just not who we are. No, we do I will say, though, that their pregnancy centers that do that, that say you need to be enrolled in these classes, the parenting classes, to get certain things. I don't see anything wrong with that? No, I don't either. They're giving a service. Yeah, I think it's wisdom, but as far as we're concerned, the resources that we offer they're connected with, with just US knowing who they are, connecting them with the mentor. Often...

...times we talked about that, that mentors going to give them those those different resources and things like that. But it's not like in order to get a mentor they have to ask Jesus into their heart, anything like that. That would be so unbiblical to say yeah, you can, you can earn Jesus right by, we will give you all these things and as long as you sign on the dotted line that you love the Lord, then we will give you more right now. That would be that would be awful, and that's why we're a little bit different from other organizations and that at this point we're offering the Gospel and there can be no strings attached to your decision to because we don't want to create false converts. That's correct. I don't want someone saying yeah, as Jesus in them a heart because I know that I'm going to be able to get these free goodies right. That's I don't want that. That's to me. I don't want to create false converts that I abhor that. So, for their sake and for the sake of the Lord, we want to make sure we make that plane. None of these things that we're offering, resources are offering, has any any connection to whether you make a decision for or against Jesus and see we he'll atheist. Right, we have. We've helped lesbian atheists that have come to the abortion center. You say, do lesbians, Lesbian Atheists, get pregnant? They they do, strangely, if we've encountered them, trust me, we have. We help them, whether they make a decision for Jesus or not. We help anyone everyone that we can in as much as we're able. So jumping into you sharing the Gospel and kind of yeah, the way that you lay things out. What are the first questions you asked? Has To do with eternal destiny, right, heaven or hell, and I think it's good to get that out there. Right, it's good to get it out there. I think you mentioned what if you died going home? Is that how you worded it? Yeah, something like that. If you were hit by a car on the way, we can pray you're not. I always remind them. I want them open that happens to you. But if it did happen, yeah, are you going to go to heaven or hell? Yeah, now she said something to the effect of, well, what if I just cease to exist? What if I just don't exist again, she's playing at the part of an agnostic who, right doesn't really know whether or not there's even a heaven or hell. So then I made it a hypothetical right, because I didn't really want to get into dealing with that answer. Yeah, and that's I think that's wisdom. Right. Yeah, it's let the Holy Spirit do his work. Right. We're not going to be able to get into an apologetic about heaven or hell and the afterlife and all this other stuff, like you're not. It's not wise to go around that mountain continually before you even get into sharing the Gospel. Right, just, okay, hypothetically speaking, what if? What if it is true that there's a heaven and a hell, and then you just roll with it? That's what you did. Not I like that. Yeah, I think most people can relate to a place of reward and a place of punishment, to even if it's not what you...

...call heaven or Hell? Yeah, yeah, so just going right through that and just asking heaven or hell. She lays out like most parts, like like the Bible says. The Bible says each man will proclaim his own goodness. You give people an opportunity. Are you a good person, a bad person? Are you a person worthy of Heaven or hell? Most people are going to say, well, I'm a pretty good person. I'm not think she said this. I've done some bad things, but generally speaking I'm a good person, so probably going to heaven, all right. Yeah, and then you jump right into the way of the Master Rate Comfort, the way that he shares the Gospel. Yeah, and showing CAS Cathy, Cathy, that she's not a good person, and she admitted in the end. Nope, I guess I really am not. Yeah, I've never had someone to say wow, well, I really am, and you're full of it with lies. Yeah, I mean what you get sometimes if you're laying out that you know. Have you ever told a lie? I'm a liar. I mean at the end you do it just like great comfort does. So you're a lying, blaspheming adulter at a lying, thieving blaspheming adulter at heart. How does that sound? Most people like, yeah, if that's the standard, I'm getting measured by toast. Right. Sometimes I'll get people to respond. Well, you know, I'm still a good person. Really, a liar, a thief, a blasting or an adulter, and you're still a good person. Yeah, then, what does a bad person look like? They can see that person. Yeah. So I think it's good, I think to what we've always pushed, what we've always supported and gotten behind as far as training for evangelism has been the way of the master. This is an effective way to share the gospel. Now, I will say this. Sharing People's guilt for sin and sharing the law, and are you a liar? All that that is actually not sharing the Gospel. Right. You're not sharing the Gospel. You're making groundwork. You're plowing the ground to share the Gospel. You're showing them why they need the Gospel, why they need to save your until they come to that understanding, the Gospel doesn't matter. They have no idea. They need Je Sus. Yet, until you've convinced them, you really are bad person and you are hopeless. You cannot get out of that cycle of Sin Yourself. And most people will ultimately agree that. Yeah, that we can lay out that way. It's just like a doctor. We talked about this in the past. You've got to convince someone that they're sick before they're going to receive the remedy. Right, right. Yeah, and the remedy, of course, is the Gospel. That's that's the Gospel. The remedy sharing what Jesus has done and his death is barrel's resurrection, but sharing the conviction of sin and the guilt that we have before God. That's not sharing the Gospel, but that's laying the groundwork for sharing the gospel. That showing people their guilt, right, they see that they need a relationship with Jesus, right, and then moving into the whole justice,...

...the the court and and the idea that they're there is justice and that we all desire justice, and most people can really relate to that. One of the things that I didn't do that I could have done was, as she was really she understood justice. She seemed to truly understand consequence for sin and the need for justice and maybe introducing the idea of justice towards her child. Yeah, and and I didn't that. That, again, was something I could have. I could have used that that. I think she would have been with me on that. Yeah, so, but, yeah, the rat comfort framework is really good. I do tweak it a little, like I don't exactly follow how great comfort does it in that. I spend a lot of time on that. Romans ten nine. Yeah, first and the reason for that is in where we are, so many of the women claim to be believers. Yeah, they'll leaven say not only do they believe in Jesus, believe in God, but Jesus is their Lord. Run, they have proclaimed him as their Lord. Yeah, and we really want to expose the truth or lack of truth of that statement if they are there actively rebelling against God in such a serious thing as killing their own child. Yeah, and you ask that question specifically, and I'll like the way that you lay that out. If money is your Lord, then will you do anything for money? Yeah, you will do anything to get money. Jesus is your Lord, she says, I'll do anything to get Jesus. Well, yes, you kind of reframed it. I believe you'll do anything that he says. You'll obey him. Right, and that's really what you're getting to, are you obeying God? Are you doing the things that he commands you to do? And, of course, in this scenario, are you obeying him as it concerns your Inborn Child? Obeying him by not going in and murdering your child? Right and also, and this can be slightly controversial, I'll think, for people, but as you're laying out Romans ten, if you confess with your mouth and believe in your heart Jesus Christ as Lord, confessor Math Jesus Christ as Lord, and believe in your heart that God's raised him from the dead, you shall be saved. And you try to get them to to make a profession of faith. You give them what some people might call an invitation. Would you like to do that right now? Would you like to confess Jesus as your Lord Right now? To pray and confess Jesus as Lord Now? She turned down that opportunity right she say something like I think about about it, I want to learn about it more. It's the first time I've heard it represented that way. I love a response like that. Honestly, that's what I want them to be sparked on to learn for themselves. It that faith has to be their own, not just because someone has told it. Yeah, yeah, what you don't want is trying to trick them into saying the sinner's prayer so you can put a notch on your belt. Right, I've got another one, saved or whatever. Well,...

...if you, if you're considered that, just say this after me real quick. Trick him into quote getting saved. Yeah, again, we don't want to create false converts, right. Won't people who are truly convicted for their sin feel their guilt before God, on their need for a savior and that are truly repent it? Right, and that might spring board into what you thought was a blaring amission. Yeah, which I didn't think was was a blaring a mission. Certainly you could talk to more about repentance and that's what it was. Right, right. I never, never mentioned repentance. It has occurred to me for a long time I really need at my fingertips a good repentance verse. That's all it need. Just throw in a good repentance verse, yeah, of which there's many, and and talk about that. That true repentance means more than just saying you're sorry for your sins, that you first I brought her to a recognition of sin. I don't know if I I think maybe a sense of sorrow over her sin, but I never talked about how true repentance means turning from this life of Sin and and you change your actions. If there's true repentance, you change your actions and that's it. That is very critical, especially in front of an abortion center, because true repentance, if you have agreed with everything that I have just shared with you, true repentance means you're not going to go in there and kill your baby, right, and there are people I have actually said that too. So I know I don't always forget repentance, but I know sometimes I do, because it's not mentioned in the Romans ten nine verse, and that's where I'm really queuing in on on sharing the gospels. So I need to add a good verse regarding repentance. Yeah, I think. I think it would have been better. Yeah, and that's what Draymin for, is repentance toward God and faith toward the Lord Jesus, like it talks about the book of facts. They preach repentance toward God and faith toward the Lord Jesus. Yeah, so that's what we have for you. Don't think there's anything else really that I wanted to touch on. It was kind of a long counseling session. So, yeah, then want to lay were too long at the end and kind of breaking down critique and that sort of thing. I said, I think it went pretty good. Anything you want to mention before were I will tell you I wanted to do this in eight minutes. That was my goal and I kept watching the clock taking I was thinking what could I have left out? So I do think it's important to remember we don't want to rush God and we don't. This is if we're going to take a long time with something, this is where we want to spend our time. I think, because we've said so many times, the heart that is willing to ape Bart a child is going to continue no matter how many goodies we give her, unless her heart has been changed towards God. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and I will say that these sessions like this, sharing the Gospel, could happen over in the shade right yeah, or it could happen...

...on the phone. It could happen on the mobileltra sound unit could help happen in the pregnancy center. It could happen over coffee, breakfast, dinner. I have ething like that. I've even texted this when a mom says I'm just so busy, can you can you text, and I'll say, okay, I will take whatever opportunity they offer me. Sure. And so, ultimately, though, it's the Holy Spirit that does right, the changing of the hearts. We have to share, we have to be faithful to share, but the word of God tells us to share, which I believe we were aiming for repentance. So we want to bring the truth of sin to bear. We want to lay out there saying their guilt before God and and then show them that Jesus is the savior, he's the remedy for the problem of sin. Yeah, thank you did that well. So praise God for that. Hope you guys were blessed as you listen to you. Please reach out to us if you have suggestions of future podcast. We're going to continue to do some of these mock sessions. We think they are blessing to people. We're going to continue to cover other subjects to but if you have other subjects in particular that we haven't yet covered that you would want us to cover, or maybe subjects we have covered that you want us to dig a little deeper into we'd certainly love to do that. You can reach out to me, Daniel, Love Life Dot Org. You can reach her, Vicky, at Love Life Dot Org. And until next time, God, bless God, bless our love for love. Give me our love for gratitude. I know it will cost me my life. Nothing's too precious, and some that you.

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